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Michael Pokocky

I find your comment completely demoralizing for the youth who are training everyday to achieve their dreams.

Its not about the money; its about the kids.

Peace,

/michael

cpirie

Thanks for reading, Michael. I'm curious... at what point does that logic begin to fail? Is it at the £800,000 mark? Maybe the £1,000,000 mark? Perhaps even £2,000,000 is just fine for a logo.... providing it's 'about the kids' and all.... mmmm.... I'm willing to bet that the youth who are training for the 2012 Olympics would much rather have the money spent on training infrastructure, etc., no?

Michael Pokocky

Hi Carman Pirie,

You nailed it right on the head. Logic. That illusion that we all can think before we have all the facts. That illusion that one knows more than one really does and will defend their logic at all cost.

No thank you. I choose emotion. Emotion lifts the spirit and kills it and those results depend on factors we have no control over.

Emotions. That wonderful feeling that brings a pallor to the cheek. That wonderful feeling that is without ego. You know the ego thing. It is another illusion too.

But I won't get into that here.

Your worry about money better spent elsewhere is a good one but it is highly unrealistic. You know the politics. You know the capitalist get all the money you can while we can scenario. There is no way that the money you refer to will ever get to the new training infrastructure. Why? Politics. Logic. Capitalism at all cost. Shall I go on?

Your curiosity will never be satiated because you focus on the money. You use logic to make decisions. You attack someone you don't know and I will not presume why. Only you know what you do and think. Tell us why you ask this question? Better still why not write and tell us how this silly debate about a logo is doing any good for the youth? I'm curious. Perhaps you are a specialist or expert in this field of child psychology?

Oh did I say I was? No. I just said what I said and meant it and stand by it and I write this back to you to defend the ideal of the demoralization of the Olympic Ideal at the expense of youth.

Perhaps if everyone just shut up about the debate and organize themselves to build that infrastructure you suggest then we will have a logo, an new training infrastructure and would generate more free press than this blog debating will ever get. Oh didn't you know that the press and I am referring to traditional media can generate so much positive spin on this debate if only the bloggers of the world unite to take a stand to agree to agree not to debate the logo to death. The money is spent and the logo is done. One cannot go back and fix what we all know is broken but we can remember it was broken and get involved the next time to make a logo. Personally if I could I would design it for free and give the cost of designing it to helping organize a committee to raise money to build that new training center.

I stand on the comment I made.

Have a nice day.

Cheers and feel the ViBe,

~~michael

cpirie

Hi Michael,

Thank you for visiting once again, and I apologize if you feel my opposing view is in some way a personal attack... it isn't, and couldn't be, as we've never met in-person.

In any event, my bet is that we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

I think it is worth pointing out that I very much encourage opposing views, healthy debate, constuctive dialog, etc. That's why I allow for open comments on this blog. I must say, I find it a tad odd that you would prefer bloggers et al not debate the logo... in my view, restricting debate is rarely, if ever, a good idea.

In fact, the Olympic Creed reads as follows: "The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well."

The spirit of competition, struggle and fight is certainly at the heart of the Olympics, and healthy debate in my view is quite aligned with the spirit of the Olympics.

So, you're most welcome to post your opposing views on this little corner of the internet that I pay for. And, should you choose to blame capitalism, politics and logic for most of the world not liking the London 2012 logo, then that's cool too. I just don't agree.

Again Michael, thanks for reading. Go well. cp

Hrishi

I agree with both of you. Feels good.

Is that allowed?

:-)

cpirie

More than okay with me Hrishi... cheers, cp

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